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Ukraine is getting thrown under the bus
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Ukraine is getting thrown under the bus
Not a good time to be Ukraine!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2...dates-news
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/t...index.html
The US, Russia, and Saudi Arabia have met to discuss what to do about Ukraine. Notably, representatives from Ukraine are not present. Imagine a bunch of people meeting to decide your future... without you!
Russia will probably keep eastern Ukraine and Crimea. At this point, they've held onto those long enough that it's unlikely they will be rolled back. I assume not giving Ukraine NATO membership will also be a requirement of any deal. Ukraine will end up being the big loser here. Ukraine claims Russia has lost 800K troops in the war, while Ukraine has lost only 5% of that number. Russia releases no official numbers so we can't be sure. Even so, it's likely Russia lost a lot more troops than Ukraine. Usually the case for invaders.
Ending the war is in everyone's interest. Anything to stop the bloodshed. I don't think Ukraine will be happy with the outcome. Russia was always pretty clear about what they wanted out of this, and it looks like they'll get it. The US might think twice about trying to expand NATO onto Russia's doorstep again.
the horrors persist, but so do we

(aka large mozz)


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