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Democrats are controlled opposition
If you're already familiar with this idea, this won't be news to you.

It is often argued that the US doesn't have two parties, but one. Then, people criticize the notion by showing how Republicans and Democrats reverse each other's policies whenever the Presidency or Congress changes hands.

So, fine: it's not one party in that way. Rather, it is a one-party state in the way other one-party states with token opposition are. The thing about being controlled opposition is that you don't necessarily know you're controlled or even agree to be. Instead, norms and power structures are arranged such that, as the opposition, you are limited in how much you can disrupt the status quo. You can even get your turn at the wheel sometimes, but your ability to impact anything is relatively small--and changes you do make are likely to be rolled back.

It wasn't always like this. I'd say the trend began with Nixon, though it's fair to say that every President has built on the excesses of his predecessors. Nixon certainly had designs on being nearly dictatorial, and having to resign in disgrace is a wound the GOP never got over. You can see the escalating levels of power asserted by Republican Presidents with Reagan, George W. Bush, and Trump.

Democrats did have choices. But because they require the power of capital to fund and operate their campaigns, allying with leftists or even progressives is usually untenable. So, they end up supporting Republican efforts to shore up the interests of capital. This makes them dependent on the whims of Republicans, and limits their options in terms of representing any real opposition. After all, they can't bite the hand that feeds them, and corporate America feeds both parties.

Dems' status as controlled opposition is probably clearest when they run and lose elections. They immediately blame leftists, which are too few in number to swing anything. They also take up all the space for any resistance to the Republican agenda, then they do little or nothing to actually obstruct it. When they have to choose between supporting their left flank and enabling fascists, they always choose the latter.

Pretty much the second Trump won last year, Dems ran straight to blaming leftists, and even gloated about the harm that would be done to marginalized people as a just punishment for not supporting Kamala Harris. Why don't they sound like they're on our side? Because they simply aren't, and haven't been for decades, if ever.

I'm not going to say you shouldn't vote, as even a small impact is better than none, but nobody should put their hopes on electoral solutions to any of the dire problems that plague this country. We're way, way past that point.
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(01-21-2025, 03:18 PM)gorzek Wrote: It is often argued that the US doesn't have two parties, but one. Then, people criticize the notion by showing how Republicans and Democrats reverse each other's policies whenever the Presidency or Congress changes hands.

This.

I fucking hate this back and forth "button pushing" between administrations, even before Trump was a thing.

i.e.
Republican in office - button pushed for less science and arts
Democrat in office - button pushed for more science and arts

But the caveat is that the wires for the buttons have long been severed, so the button pushing is performative at best.

I remember back in 2010 saying in passing that the two parties were essentially two sides of the same coin and people got mad at me for saying that. Despite me voting for Obama I never innately had faith in the government, or that his supposed "change" would happen. End the war in Afghanistan? Okay. End Guantanamo Bay? Aight buddy, sure. If you say so. I'll believe it when I see it.

Some of my darkest thoughts believe that Trump 2.0 had to happen in order for the Democratic party to disintegrate to make way for a new party to rise. Alternatively, for civil war/unrest to break out and both parties will collapse, effectively ending this "controlled opposition" once and for all.

Kamala did feel like an Obama 2.0 for a hot minute, but you know the "uh-oh" moment I realized this wasn't going to happen? When she did that "I AM SPEAKING!" cry against a pro-Palestine activist in her rally. I immediately shook my head and muttered, "Fuck. It's not going to work." Granted, a Kamala administration would a have been similar to Biden administration anyway, which reinforces my belief that this whole shit just needs to be torn down ASAP. We can't keep playing this "lesser evil" game every election.
I'll just say that the reasons people didn't vote for her are well-known from polls. Additionally, her campaign got a late start because she wasn't even supposed to be the candidate. And it's clear her heart wasn't really in it. It's no surprise it was a blowout, just incredibly embarrassing and awful.
the horrors persist, but so do we

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My one hope at the time, I know I sound silly saying it, was that it was simply a matter of changing up the game. Something they never really did before. The first few weeks were wild with anticipation and hope but then things tapered off once you realize "It's just gonna be the same shit why did I ever feel hyped"
Democrats are good at giving you fleeting moments of hope. They've got great marketing skills, sometimes. That's part of what keeps them relevant.
the horrors persist, but so do we

(aka large mozz)
(01-21-2025, 03:18 PM)gorzek Wrote: If you're already familiar with this idea, this won't be news to you.

It is often argued that the US doesn't have two parties, but one. Then, people criticize the notion by showing how Republicans and Democrats reverse each other's policies whenever the Presidency or Congress changes hands.

So, fine: it's not one party in that way. Rather, it is a one-party state in the way other one-party states with token opposition are. The thing about being controlled opposition is that you don't necessarily know you're controlled or even agree to be. Instead, norms and power structures are arranged such that, as the opposition, you are limited in how much you can disrupt the status quo. You can even get your turn at the wheel sometimes, but your ability to impact anything is relatively small--and changes you do make are likely to be rolled back.

It wasn't always like this. I'd say the trend began with Nixon, though it's fair to say that every President has built on the excesses of his predecessors. Nixon certainly had designs on being nearly dictatorial, and having to resign in disgrace is a wound the GOP never got over. You can see the escalating levels of power asserted by Republican Presidents with Reagan, George W. Bush, and Trump.

Democrats did have choices. But because they require the power of capital to fund and operate their campaigns, allying with leftists or even progressives is usually untenable. So, they end up supporting Republican efforts to shore up the interests of capital. This makes them dependent on the whims of Republicans, and limits their options in terms of representing any real opposition. After all, they can't bite the hand that feeds them, and corporate America feeds both parties.

Dems' status as controlled opposition is probably clearest when they run and lose elections. They immediately blame leftists, which are too few in number to swing anything. They also take up all the space for any resistance to the Republican agenda, then they do little or nothing to actually obstruct it. When they have to choose between supporting their left flank and enabling fascists, they always choose the latter.

Pretty much the second Trump won last year, Dems ran straight to blaming leftists, and even gloated about the harm that would be done to marginalized people as a just punishment for not supporting Kamala Harris. Why don't they sound like they're on our side? Because they simply aren't, and haven't been for decades, if ever.

I'm not going to say you shouldn't vote, as even a small impact is better than none, but nobody should put their hopes on electoral solutions to any of the dire problems that plague this country. We're way, way past that point.

a minor thing i would argue about controlled opposition is that the trump administration definitely screwed everyone by demolishing the pandemic response team in 2018 (circa?). that was literally the 1 thing that would have had a chance at quashing covid-19 early on. going to be blunt here but right-wing people really tend not to be scientifically sound, literate, or minded. so while I do agree that the two parties are in a way two sides of the same coin, voting for one over the other can literally save or kill more lives. it's just that the Dems never had the fucking gall to do much about anything because the entire system is mired in capitalism - which is the real Big Bad of the story.
lol wow this about sums it up


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