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autism??
I've been looking into self-diagnosing autism lately. 
It answers a lot of questions about why I've always felt like an alien. But at the same time, I'm hesitant to actually say I'm definitely autistic because I don't know what that would change for me.
like I've gotten along 40 years being the way I am without knowing. 
anyone else here on the spectrum? Any thoughts, advice, tips, on what comes after diagnosis? Is it worth getting an official diagnosis? Especially in current US political climate?
You mean you've never been diagnosed? I've always got big autism vibes from you. Fellow autist here. 😛
the horrors persist, but so do we

(aka large mozz)
I don't have an autism diagnosis, however, if I'm not neurospicy then shit science really needs to change the definition for a few of those conditions. Tldr an autism diagnosis absolutely would be predictive of the challenges I face in my human experience week to week.
I think the value for you is to explore what perspectives and contexts best exemplify your human experience week to week. As an adult, I wouldn't let a lack of formal diagnosis gatekeep you from identifying as on the spectrum.
(02-23-2025, 03:35 AM)gorzek Wrote: You mean you've never been diagnosed? I've always got big autism vibes from you. Fellow autist here. 😛

ROTFLL!!!!
I mentioned this to a friend irl today and they were like "uhh yeah?" fffuuck

(02-23-2025, 04:00 AM)FrodoSwaggins Wrote: I don't have an autism diagnosis, however, if I'm not neurospicy then shit science really needs to change the definition for a few of those conditions. Tldr an autism diagnosis absolutely would be predictive of the challenges I face in my human experience week to week.
I think the value for you is to explore what perspectives and contexts best exemplify your human experience week to week. As an adult, I wouldn't let a lack of formal diagnosis gatekeep you from identifying as on the spectrum.
I just don't want to be like "I'm on the spectrum" and then turn out not to be and like... claiming something that isn't true and get a bad rep for it...
its dumb. anxiety is dumb.
and also, if I am on the spectrum, does that mean I'm entitled to accommodations? what would those be? what am I allowed to have when I've been doing "fine" without them for 40 yrs? (except I haven't I just never realized how miserable the office makes me until after I got to WFH for a few years and it was better) and what if actually getting diagnosed just makes things _worse_ because now I've got it on paper that I'm "disabled" and I can be discriminated against because current politics are allowing that.
i fucking hate anxiety
Ooh, fellow neurospicy maybe autistic person here who also works in disability and mental health, and ADHD/autism is a specific area of focus for me. I have so many thoughts.
So the are you/aren't you debate, and whether it's worth it to try and get an official diagnosis:
The advantages of getting an official diagnosis are that you could settle the question in your mind, and potentially be able to request more work accommodations. You may also be able to access more specialized care around your diagnosis, if you have that need. 
The cons are that a diagnosis can affect how medical providers treat you, and it can make it more difficult/impossible to immigrate to other countries. Quite a few countries won't accept applicants if they have physical or mental diagnoses that might be a "burden" on their healthcare systems. New Zealand, I'm looking at you.
I understand your doubt about "validity" and wanting a clear answer. I will say that even if you pursue a diagnosis, there are still a lot of old school clinicians who won't diagnose autism if you're like, able to work/attend school/etc. Diagnostic tools are supposed to take personal bias out of the equation, but I read a LOT of psychological evaluations and it's clear that things are still very subjective. If you do pursue a diagnosis, look for a clinician who specializes in autism diagnosis and has experience diagnosing adults. It can also be more difficult to diagnose if you don't have people who can speak for your presentation in childhood.
An alternative to official diagnosis is to just start reframing the things you struggle with as an autistic struggle instead of whatever other way you've understood the problem in the past, and then supporting that issue from that framework. For me, I have always struggled with burnout at work, and becoming overwhelmed in social situations or in environments with too many stimuli. Grocery stores, offices, live music concerts, and classrooms are always environments that are really bad for me. I thought it was just anxiety, but when I started approaching it from the angle that I actually experience sensory overwhelm, and took steps to try and reduce/mitigate that overwhelm, that helped more than all of the CBT, SSRIs, and breathing exercises I'd tried unsuccessfully for years previously. Maintaining schedules, giving myself lots of time to rest after tiring social situations, using headphones in public, and limiting the number of "tasks" I do in one day has helped immensely. Also just giving myself permission to skip social things that are going to burn me out, like loud music concerts, has been helpful.
A book I'd recommend if you haven't read it before is "Unmasking Autism" by Dr. Devon Price. There are also some helpful workbooks for adults with autism to help identify things you struggle with and develop coping strategies for. I recently read "Self-Care for Autistic Adults" which had some good strategies.
Additionally, you may not *need* an official diagnosis in order to get accommodations at work. My info is very US-specific, so will probably vary based on your location. If you are in the US, there is a website called AskJAN that provides a wealth of knowledge on various disabilities and examples of workplace accommodations you can ask for. If you have other documented disabilities -- like migraines, or anxiety, for example -- there are often accommodations for those that could help you. For example, asking for fluorescent light covers in your office/cubicle to reduce migraines. If it's something relatively minor that you think would be helpful you could also try approaching it informally as well if your manager is supportive, or just see if it's something you can change for yourself. As an example, I block off the first 30 minutes of my day to orient to my day, check my emails, and write up a to-do list of tasks I need to work on that day. That little bit of orientation time helps me feel more in control of my day. I make my own schedule, so that might not be an option for you, but if you do have some autonomy about how your day is scheduled, tweaking things to give yourself more orientation and processing time can be helpful.
Ultimately, I wouldn't worry too much about whether you are "really" autistic or not. The DSM diagnostic criteria is flawed and we still have surprisingly little knowledge around neurodevelopmental disorders. There's also a recent stigma around people seeking adult ADHD/autism diagnoses after learning about symptoms on tiktok, which is an entire other topic I could write an essay on. (Basic summary, there's lots of bad info on social media but also does not make someone seeking a diagnosis wrong. There's a stunning lack of access to mental health care in this country and a lot of old school clinicians who don't understand the full spectrum of how neurodiversity can present.) If you relate to an autism diagnosis, and developing supportive strategies based on that framework makes your life easier, than do that.
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@antipelican 
thank you for all that! 
I keep getting told about the "unmasking" book, but keep forgetting the title as soon as someone tells me (because everyone refuses to write it down for me and I don't have a pen ever at the time of them telling me)
I am Southern US, Bible Belt country, so that's part of why I fear getting an actual diagnosis. 
I do have a slew of documented issues: migraines, depression, and anxiety. You mentioned stimuli, and I've _always_ had trouble shopping. I cannot stand it. It isn't even people being in my way, but just too many people around doing things, and I get overwhelmed, and then I'm in an awful mood and overwhelmed. Getting upset by that always makes me feel like such a child, too. Like "everyone else is fine. Why can't I be an adult about this? It's just getting some damn bacon."
And Office... That's TORTURE. Work recently forced me back into the office after several months of getting to be at home. They put me in a cube that's open to a main walkway and connected to someone else's cube, so I have 0 privacy, and people walk up behind me all the time.  Even though we've all got headsets, the people in the offices nearby like to talk on their speakerphone. And they don't have inside voices. And someone has a machine that sounds like the souls of the damned moaning in a chorus of agony. And people are apparently incredibly underemployed, just hanging out at each other's cubes to chit-chat about the latest sportsball or whatever. 
My migraines are the worst first thing in the mornings. Driving into the office is taking my life into my hands because the visor on my car is the size of a credit card, and sunglasses cannot block out the excruciating assault to my ocular nerves as I drive directly into the sun. I'm driving with one eye closed, one hand up to block the light, and still squinting with tears running down my face, messing up my makeup.
I don't see them giving the the accommodation I _really_ want, which would be WFH permanently. I would be happy to work 60 hrs a week if I could do so in the quiet and privacy of my house.
It's really hard to be neurodivergent and trying to function in a system so hostile to our needs.
I don't know if you're looking for advice or just wanting a space to vent and process, so feel free to ignore me on all this. One thing I have found working with neurodivergent clients (and myself) is that even small accommodations can be helpful. To use the spoon theory analogy, if you wake up with ten spoons most days, and you use twelve every day, you're in a chronic deficit which leads to a downward spiral of being ever more burned out and struggling. If you can make it so you're only spending nine spoons a day, you are no longer in a deficit every day and might even have a spare spoon occasionally.
FWIW, I think you could absolutely ask for some accommodations at work based on your current diagnoses that would be helpful. Even requesting WFH would be reasonable based on migraines and anxiety, but whether your company approves it or not would depend on whether there is a precedent already for WFH. Can you do your job entirely remotely? Do other employees currently WFH, or is hybrid standard? If not, it's unlikely they would accept WFH as a 'reasonable' request. But if you're already hybrid or have the setup to be so, then at the very least you could try asking for a more flexible hybrid schedule or increased WFH hours. ALSO: you do not have to tell your employers what your diagnoses are, and I would recommend not doing so. Your medical provider can help you fill out accommodations paperwork with functional limitations without disclosing the diagnosis.
*Accommodations caveat* requesting ADA accommodations can sometimes put a target on your back. Capitalism is hostile to disability. This is less likely to happen if you work for a large corporation as they have lawyers who may discourage blatantly illegal discrimination and as just another face in the crowd there's less likely to be someone personally interested in fucking with you, but it is a possibility to be aware of.
More like crapitalism, am I right ladies? - Karl Marx
I can do my job entirely remotely, but they want me in the office for... some reason. 
I've been (without permission) doing around 2 days a week at home, claiming headaches. And like... I legit have been having migraines, so it's not exactly a lie. Other times, I've just got an appointment that I don't wanna leave from the office for and go back to the office. it's a pain. and waste of gas.
The accommodations caveat was part of why I was worried about getting diagnosed for real. Because I AM in the south and there's stigma against people who aren't "normal"
I could certainly spin the frequently, and documented migraines as an excuse for hybrid. that might be the best I can get. :<
I hope you can get a fully remote job at some point. I love being remote. I would have a very hard time going back to an office, not even counting the costs of commuting.
the horrors persist, but so do we

(aka large mozz)
(02-28-2025, 04:14 PM)gorzek Wrote: I hope you can get a fully remote job at some point. I love being remote. I would have a very hard time going back to an office, not even counting the costs of commuting.

same. something _other_ than what I am currently doing would be nice. I'd take the pay cut it would come with.


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